***Remember the Video we watched on this? Here is an update:
Indian Micro-Credit Crisis Puts Poor Women In A Bind
Washington Post
Tuesday, April 26, 2011
By Rama Lakshmi
Budhavaripeta, India — Husaina Abdul Nabi turned to micro-credit companies in the past six years to buy a noodle-making machine, pay her disabled husband’s health bills and send her children to school.
But a crisis in India’s private micro-credit industry — fueled by a spate of suicides blamed on abusive lending practices here in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh and a subsequent legal clampdown — is driving women like her back to traditional village moneylenders.
“There have been no new loans for the last six months. Women are getting desperate now and have no other option,” said Nabi, 40, who runs a business in this hamlet making Indian-style noodles to support her family of six. The moneylender made Nabi pledge her family jewelry and charges her 120 percent interest on the loan.
“The moneylenders are back in demand now,” she said. “They are drinking our blood.”
Analysts say they worry that the prevailing climate of distrust, default and desperation in Andhra Pradesh, which has the highest number of micro-lending businesses in India, may have reversed a decade of work toward the goal of financial inclusion for poor women.
Inspired by Grameen Bank, the Bangladeshi Nobel Peace Prize-winning institution that launched the micro-credit revolution, millions of poor Indian women have organized themselves into groups since the mid-1990s to qualify for small, uncollateralized business loans. India’s formal banking system, with just 30 percent of its branches in rural areas, has long been inadequate to meet the credit needs of most rural households.
In the past few years, scores of for-profit companies have sprung up across rural Andhra Pradesh, handing out small, easily obtained loans. The industry grew at a rate of 70 percent annually, but loan recovery practices were often coercive. The state government attributes at least 93 suicides to abuses and has imposed a strict law that observers say has brought the industry to a halt.
“If there are a few road accidents in the night, you don’t ban all nighttime traffic,” said Vijay Mahajan, the president of the Microfinance Institutions Network and the head of Basix, one of the oldest micro-lending companies. “There is no doubt that there was widespread wrongdoing by three or four companies, but the new law is draconian.”
The political backlash against the companies has also triggered widespread willful default by women across Andhra Pradesh, where about $1.5 billion in unpaid loans has accumulated.
“When the loan recovery officers come to the village, we chase them away,” said Ramanamma Annayya, 35, of Nagaluti village, who runs a granite mine and wears a man’s shirt over her floral-printed sari. She has four unpaid loans. A woman in her village killed herself in September by drinking pesticide after micro-credit companies harassed her when she defaulted.
“Now we want the government to write off all these loans given by the private companies,” Annayya said.
That trend worries many who built the movement.
“It took us so many years to demonstrate that poor women are creditworthy too,” said Vijay Bharati, a woman who developed women’s self-help groups in 27 villages. “But the women who were so regular in repaying for the last 15 years are now waiting for a waiver of their loans. This is damaging our movement.”
The movement’s success is visible in villages such as Oravakallu, where women have used credit not only to alter their lives but also to shape the community’s future, building a new school where children will be taught English.
“When money started coming into our hands, we became fearless,” said Ramakka Lakshmana, 60, who is illiterate and owns a small mango orchard.
Meanwhile, micro-credit companies are also trying to reinvent themselves. Delegates met at a New Delhi conference recently and vowed to set up a complaint-handling system, treat borrowers with dignity and not choose profits over the women’s prosperity.
“When you are dealing with poor, illiterate or semiliterate borrowers, you have to do away with the goal of achieving 100 percent loan-recovery rate,” said R. Prabha, an adviser to Sa-Dhan, a micro-finance company that evolved a code of conduct for the industry. “You have to have a policy to deal with genuine and willful default.”
A few companies have begun looking at different business models — such as giving loans against women’s gold jewelry — in an effort to survive in the state.
Next month, India’s federal reserve bank is expected to announce new national regulatory guidelines for micro-credit firms. But the Andhra Pradesh state law is unlikely to change, say officials.
Under the new state law, firms must submit to a maze of bureaucratic scrutiny before they can give out a fresh loan.
“It was a free-for-all earlier,” said Aviligonda Govindappa, a rural development official in Kurnool district. “We need to ensure that village women’s need for credit is not exploited.” The state government has said it will also soon set up its own finance institution for small loans.
State law now prohibits loan recovery officers from visiting a woman’s home, stipulating that debts can be collected only in the presence of other women.
“When I go to ask for loan repayments, I sit in the village school or the council building and wait for the women to turn up,” said Pamula Pedanna, a manager with the micro-credit company Spandana Sphoorty. “Earlier, they would wait for me on the assigned date with money in their hands. Nowadays, they don’t come even after I send word.”
Monday, May 9, 2011
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Andremarie Jean
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I think this is very interesting on how such a great idea can hit rock bottom so fast to me. Also I thought that the Indian women had developed a trust with the micro-credit people. In the video it seemed they had finally gotten their life on track and things were going to get better from there. Also I find it a little disturbing that a person committed suicide because of the loans the micro-credit was supposed to help prevent. Honestly this only says one thing that this wasn’t a good idea and consequences weren’t well thought out.
Alvin Mei
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India should not pay to much attention in receiving their loans back. It shows that India is a greedy and selfish country. The women of India work hard, day and night to provide food and care to their children. India should give out loans and shouldn't be expecting anything back from them, because they are in such poverty. I hope that India will resolve this issue soon.
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ReplyDeleteThis is just another example of a good, helpful idea being destroyed by people who care only for themselves and worship money. Unless you really need it in that instant my can't you just let someone have a little longer to repay you? If they keep on asking for extended time then you can certainly refuse them. But when it's their first time and you don't need the money immeadeatly, why can't you extend their loan a little? Corprate greed is destorying many good ideas that could help millions of people, but most of them fall flat just because people are greedy. This is truely sad.
Cortney Corley
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I think that these micro-credit loans started off as a great idea because they gave poor Indian women a chance at starting a business. But I believe that the companies are doing the best they can. Every business has problems now and then, but its not like they are purposefully torturing people. They're doing their job. Also, I think that the people should get used to the recovery of the loan. If you got loaned money, you want to try and prove you can pay it back with starting something successful. If they ask for this responsibility, they should be aware of the consequences. And we see how much good this has done for some people- like with building the new schools and shaping the future.
In this situation, the problem can be rooted down to one simple factor: greed. Why are these new micro-credit companies hassling the people for their loans? Are they really that interested in making a profit? Keep in mind that these loans are called "micro-credit" for a reason. These loans are of very low amounts, and most of them equate to less than a single U.S. dollar. Why in the world would there be a hassle to get back a couple dollars, especially when these people obviously need it much more? This is why Grameen Bank had such a high loan-recovery rate, because they put trust in these people, and they faithfully and gratefully paid the money back. This makes me wonder if Grameen Bank is one of the ones guilty of hassling people for their money. The law that is restricting micro-credit makes no sense, it should be revoked. Obviously this is not a better situation, because the moneylenders they now have to go to are more corrupt then those few micro-credit businesses. As poor as these people are, why are you making them pay 120% interest and swear their prized possessions? As people, we need to do better.
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I guess that micro-credit is a good and bad thing.
Many people are living off of micro-credit, it's their only way to get money. And they honestly can't get mad at these people for not having the money to repay them. If they are barely scraping by off of their micro-credit, what else are they going to pay them with? I don't think that the people that organized this thought it out very well. But that's the only bad thing I can think of since it's helping so many people survive.
I think it is very bad that some micro- credit companies are starting to become very demanding, and are starting to have outrageous interest fees. However I also think it is very good that some companies are trying to treat their customers with respect and make micro- crediting very simple and hassle free. It is very sad that people are starting to kill themselves over this. It seems to be that the companies are to blame for this. If the companies wouldn't be so hash and would actually be in the business to help out and not to make huge sums of money, it would be so much better. In the end I hope that some companies come to their senses and begin to make micro- crediting easier.
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ReplyDeleteI think that this was inevitable. We are humans. It is our NATURE to want everything for ourselves. When we're at Costco, we see some free samples and immediately think "Oh, I'm going to get some!" When we visit the dental office and see the free toothpaste they give, we think, "Oh how splendid! I think I'll take some!" So when we hear that some company is giving out free loans, we immediately think, "Holy bajesus get me in on that!" And, as the humans we are, we tend to be irresponsible at times and refuse to fulfill our duties. So i completely saw this coming. It's inevitable that people are going to take the micro-credit program for granted because everybody wants the good stuff, but only so many can pay back the loans. The micro-credit program has not made any rules regarding the consequences of not paying the loans, so this is natural too. Hey, don't blame the people. After all, we are only human.
Tyler Morris
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Microcredit could have, and has, substantially helped India’s women start to succeed on their own and not be bound by traditions. It could have given them freedom to do as they please while still helping their families grow and become part of something. It could have helped India as a whole country. When people’s wealth goes up so does their living standards, does not India have somewhat poor living standards? So by cancelling all of these microcredit companies, you are hurting the country in a major way. Now no one can get any money unless they borrow from the village criminal who basically steals from them.
It's moments like this where I have to think to myself how far humanity has succumbed to greed. People in near desperation situations need help, and when someone comes along and does it well, people who chase profit come around and ruin the idea and then torture the people over these loans, which by the have a return rate of 93% (probably more then the U.S.). I believe the idea of having this community inspired loan service was great but Grameen Bank should have known that greed would have come into the equation at some point. Hopefully these poor people will find a way to make it through.
ReplyDeleteI'm totally not surprised! I knew this could be a problem from when I was first introduced to the concept. Someone cannot just go introduce western style commerce to villages that the people are living so traditionally. Also, I believe the relationship between a bank and it's clients is aggressive with the bank being the aggressor and the ladies' suicide is a reaction to that pressure
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Some Indian people may have seen this coming since the economy is really low for most countries. Really shocking that people commit suicide when they are in big debt and require help when there’s no one around to help. If I were in a situation like this I would have no clue of what to do, it would be complicated to agree with the micro-credit people since they would want the 100% back. These days growing and living is becoming harder, especially people without education.
Samantha Twardowski
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I believe that this is so amazing how such a smart plan can turn into a disaster. The people in India need help with money just like a lot of people need help in America, and they are all in the same boat with money issues. But I agree with Andremarie, because in the video, it did seem like everything was going well and they were finally getting the hang of having to live on the amount of money that they got. It is very sad to see that they are now, once again having to go through a difficult time.
Kaylah Moore 2ND
ReplyDeleteI agree; this idea seemed great enough not to fail. But if these women are borrowing money they should understand that they should pay it back. In America not all people can borrow how much ever they want from the bank. They have to go through history check and see what they want the loan for. In this system, they’re just giving money to all, and that may have been where they went wrong.
Logan Gloster
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That's interesting that this article is mainly focused on women getting poor. Does this mean that men are also becoming poor? I honestly can't believe that the trouble of the economy caused people to kill themselves. I'd say this is kind of like an apocalyptic setting where people who's entire lives were focused around money were crushed because of a failing economy, but there is no apocalypse except for the fact that no one is truly equal. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
Rhea Cruse
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I agree with my fellow peer, this idea was not well thought out. The people that came up with the idea should have thought about the consequences that the women and their families would have to face if things went wrong.
Jeffrey Jhingree
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I agree with Andremarie when she says that this idea wasn't a good one and how the consequences were not thought out well. This micro- credit loan system was supposed to be there to help people who are struggling to start a business. Instead people are committing suicide because of harassment from loan collectors. The video that we viewed in class made it seem as if this system was helping families turn their life around or get their life back on track.
I'm surprised that this idea has too found a way to be a bad one. India has been trying very hard to help the rural people, but moneylenders that ask back for so much money is not helping these people get back on track! The video we watched showed how successful the micro-credit idea was, but now that too is causing problems. I hope that the government takes some kind of action to help the villagers.
ReplyDeleteI remember the video and while in the video this was looked up as a positive experience and I remember there being a 99% return loan efficiency, it is hard to hear otherwise. The truth must be told and since some women are killing themselves of the harassment that they endure due to their unpaid loans maybe if they don't pay back the first loan, another should not even be considered. That way it is fair, and this idea won't be back lashing so fast!
ReplyDeleteThe micro-credit people are supposed to prevent new loans and be reliable. So it is a shame that they're creating more burdens on these families. And the interest rate they're charging is astoundingly high. This idea needs to go back to the drawing board.
ReplyDeleteThis is just another example of a good, helpful idea being destroyed by people who care only for themselves and worship money. The people who created the project should have better thought of an idea that would withstand such circumstances as these.
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ReplyDeleteAlvin: It isn't India that is greedy, it is the micro credit people.
Logan: Well what other choice do they have? Live in the village while being harassed by loan officials, or sell all your possessions to stop them.
I think the microcredit people are getting a little too anxious about getting money back. If they let the people keep the money a little longer, then maybe they could pay back for than the debt. I mean its not like the money is going towards drugs or alcohol. I would just take a while. Plus I know that village people in most countries have more honor and are more respectful than most of us "city-folk" who don't like saying sorry. Keeping poor people poor will result in chaos and crime. I think they should let the villagers keep the money a bit longer.
Neethu George
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I am not too surprised that this idea of micro credit failed in the poor, rural parts of India. In the video, it seemed to be an efficient and positive way for those who live in poverty. The money lenders are charging way to high of an interest rate for the poor. Someone truly has to do something to fix the problem.
This is news to me, because the video we watched in class sure made it appear to be the opposite. Anyways, this just goes to show you that a good idea is good for a little while, but then it is time for an update or replacement because the old is no longer functional.
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Micro-credit was a great idea. This is shown by how the institution won a Nobel Peace Prize, but of course, nothing is perfect. At the start, the loaning companies were actually sincere, and gave out free loans because they wanted to help diminish the poverty of India's villages. Then come the greedy others, seeing a way to make easy money. They don't care about the Indians or their struggle to live, all they want is the reimbursement so they can continue living in luxury. Even increasing the interest rate when the initial payment wasn't made, it all shows the greed that has overcome us.
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Mayur Patel
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From my understanding, microcredit is a wonderful thing because for some families, that's all they have. They work hard to give their children a better lifestyle and a good education, and they should deserve something. Companies like this should't be greedy, they only want money and they dont care a single bit about how the people are living. Microcredit is a good idea but the companies that give it should have the correct attitude.
Esteban Palacios
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Wasn't micro-credit supposed to help poor people. Not only that but they tried to give just enough so that they didn't get indebted but still have some for food on the table. But, according to this they all wanted was money. When they said that they needed to think their problem over they need it as soon as possible.
Mishi Jain
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I feel that the microcredit idea is a great one. It helps so many families that do not have food to eat and due to that, may not even have a roof to live under. When I read this article, what hit me the most was this sentence; "If there are a few road accidents in the night, you don’t ban all nighttime traffic,” said Vijay Mahajan. I felt that this applied very well to the situation. This is also completely true. Everything has pros and cons, but when the pros are greater than cons then it is a good idea.
Ok, Lloyd, the problem is not capitalism, but the high interest rates. One hundred twenty percent interest is outrageous. The idea of interest itself was frowned upon historically. The Jews charged interest, and everyone else went berserk, calling them greedy, selfish, etc. The Spanish Inquisition and the Holocaust happened because people do not like to be charged interest. Dante Alighieri even put usurers in the seventh circle of hell. In America, the mortgage interest rate right now is only 4.625%, even in this economy. A 120% interest loan would be a significant financial burden on anybody, not just poor Bengali women. Microcredit would really work well if the interest rate were lowered.
ReplyDeleteTo me, microcredit is a great idea. For some families it's amazing because sometimes that's all they can have right now. But I think that the people should've thought out the consequences that women have to face now because of it.
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I don't think this micro-credit movement should stop. It actually provides people with a source for money and in a civil way. Traditional moneylenders often use extreme method to get their money back and charge ridiculous amounts of interests. Compare to that, micro-credit is much more reasonable. Micro-credit firms should extend the time for the women to pay money back.
This is just another example of a good, helpful idea being destroyed by people who care only for themselves and worship money.But I believe that the companies are doing the best they can.In the video, it seemed to be an efficient and positive way for those who live in poverty.
ReplyDeleteI always though that this microcrdit was a good thing. Many rural families in India do not have the money to send their childeren to school or to give them some decent cloths as well. I have seen many people poor and barely surviving and this micrcredit was all they had. I guess good things aren't ment to stay long, this idea could have gone far if the people that made this thought out the problems as well as the advantages that this could bring and have a back up plan if it were to go upside down, like it has.
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Like all companies, profit for themselves is the main and normally only goal. This same principle is shown through the micro-credit companies, now. From charging 120% interest to taking jewelry and other valuables for payment, the micro-credit service is losing main intent of helping the less fortunate women and families of India.
I don't think that India is wrong for wanting their loan. In the world if you ask for some money you have to pay it back. What would happen if all the poor people in India ask for money and didnt pay it back then India would be in debt.
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Ayoub Saber
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If you got loaned money, you want to try and prove you can pay it back with starting something good. I agree that this idea was not well thought out, because they should come up with an idea that helps people. But Hey, Don't blame them We all human.
Alma Martinez
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I saw this coming this great idea and plan became to a disaster. I do believe India should get their money because is something that needs to be paybacked. Everybody is in love with their money and can become selfish with it. I just think that although India may have been used to just spending the money they have they were getting better. Now this great idea became into a complete disaster and chaos.
Microcredit is a very significant topic, and it has many pros and cons. It's useful to many people, but it can be harmful because of it's extremeties. Like, 120% interest? That's crazy.
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Arvin Rodil
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Micro-credit is very helpful for many people. Especially for people who’s only way to get money is through micro credit. The movement has such great impact in many of the villages and now the government just wants their money back. Greedy much? How can the government decide to write off all these loans these people barley have any money in the first place? How can they expect them to repay the loans? Where would they get the money? In addition making them pay 120% interest isn’t going to help the matter either. If the movement is making such a great impact, why would you go around and mess it up? I think they need to rethink what they’re trying to do.
I think that micro-credit is a very good idea, but like everything, it isn't perfect. It started out as a good thing, and I mean some people live on their micro-credit, how is the company going to expect them to pay back what they were loaned if they can’t get by without it, they have NO money to spare. I think that the company should begin to revise their original plan, making it so they only give loans to people that are using them for certain things, however they should also take into consideration that some people would not be able to live without the loans that are being provided. There are just many things that need to be taken into consideration for the company.
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I think that the micro-credit thing is a good thing for the poor,Indian women to help them start a business, and earn a living for themselves. But it has been shown that it can also be bad because the people who give them loan asks for too much money when they are just starting to earn a living for themselves. The intrest rate really needs to be lowered.
I guess that micro-credit is a good and bad thing.
ReplyDeleteMany people are living off of micro-credit, it's their only way to get money. And they honestly can't get mad at these people for not having the money to repay them. If they are barely scraping by off of their micro-credit, what else are they going to pay them with? I don't think that the people that organized this thought it out very well. But that's the only bad thing I can think of since it's helping so many people survive.
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Jerry George
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Micro-credit seemed like such a good idea, but the attempts were a bit lackluster throughout India, which leads to this financial crisis. Hearing this instantly made me think of how much promise this system had for those in Bangladesh after watching the video on the Grameen Bank, but it seems that the promise has fallen short of success. Loans are not being paid, people are not receiving any loans, and many more of these things essentially created this domino effect where Indian micro-lenders now face a financial meltdown. Can we necessarily blame those greedy loaners or those bold women who fought off collectors, since these situations accumulated into this problem that will need a drastic solution. After all, financial meltdowns generally occur from a domino effect that occurs from a combination of factors, the 2008 bank collapse for example. Thus, I can only hope the Indian financial system would redo their policies to adapt to the majority of India's population as well as enforce more growth towards poorer, rural areas. If they seek to get a better output from their financial systems, they need to reach out to their rural citizens and build good relationships that can strengthen the trust between the two sides.
Mariah Cooper
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Helping the women of their country is very generous, and I don’t think they should worry about getting their money back that much. These women need the money in order to keep their families in good health. I don’t think the micro-credit people thought out what could possibly happen when things go bad. Obviously these women are desperate for the money, and will eventually find a way to pay them back.
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ReplyDeleteThe video we watched about micro-credits to me was a good idea. The fact that the people who gave the villagers money is asking for too much seems selfish. India should rethink this idea and try to make it better. The woman in the article works hard all day to keep her family stable and this goes for all the other women living in the villages. They should rethink the possible!
I think that micro-credits have different outcomes for different people. Some people, like the women in the video, benefit and become successful with what they are given. But some people find it hard to pay back what they are given, like people now. But this is most likely the fault of the money loaners, who should be patient. Obviously it may be difficult to get started so loaners should be a bit more lenient.
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What is happening now is appalling. These deprived women get the chance to start a new, more successful life just to be shot down again by the same people who offered them that opportunity. The article even said that the women religiously paid back their loans and it's just been recently that they haven't been able to be paying them. The government should realize that they are pushing it over the limit when people start committing suicide over money. Is money worth more than a life? No. The bank owners need to realize that these women are just starting off in a completely new working environment and it's going to take a while for them to accumulate enough money earned to pay off their loans. Then there wouldn't be as much of this violence and disappointment; it'd be a win-win situation.
Micro-Credit cannot be considered the most efficient idea to be enforced in a such a corrupt country like India. Obviously, failures happen after a product is introduced. This is nothing new to the world. Indian technicians are probably not smart enough to handle such complex systems. A much lighter system may have reduced the chances of this failure. Indian political leaders try their maximum to exploit any new technology that is newly installed in the nation.
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The women of India work very hard to provide for their families. Often times, they recieve little pay for all the hard work that they do. For a women to kill herself over some loan issues is a horrible thing. That should give the government a head's up about how much trouble the loan companies cause for the women and it should make them want to create something better for them.
Nick Grieger
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Like most companies, profit for themselves is the main goal. At first, the micro-credit had the goal of making the poor families get back on their feet financially. Yet now, the company is seeking profit from the women that made the loans. The high interest of 120%, make the idea of micro-credit slowly decline.
This is sad to me, because the women need the credit, and the companies are trying to get it to them, but some are giving them bad names. The companies can't loan to 500 people and not have them pay it back, or else they will go out of business, but they need to not be greedy and establish a relationship with their customers. if the customers like and trust them then they will pay them back as fast as they can. The companies do need to be patient with these people, as they have trouble just sustaining their life. The companies need to be patient, and the women need to pay back the companies they lended to, and if they can't tell the companies and try to work something out.
ReplyDeleteDoes this in any way show that the countries the United States helps no longer receive money from the US due to the 12 trillion dollar debt we are currently in therefore destroying their economy? This is due to the fact that American money in which no longer is present has stimulated the money into the pockets of the micro-credit investors. Also, much like Leo said it is in our nature to spend and spend no matter how much money in which we owe or have. Beyond this point the micro-credit was due to fail because in some cases no matter how much money a family receives they either don't have the resources to pay back to the bank or just don't want to pay it back. The original statistics that said that 98 percent of people pay the money back to their investors during a healthy economy which were are not in therefore the percent has drop substantially.
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India’s loaning system has been led astray by corrupted officials who only care about the money, not the people. The whole point of loans is to allow people to have enough breathing room while accumulating enough money to pay back. India has become much too strict on their policies that it has even resulted in suicides. I believe that India should take some time to rethink a better technique in loaning without too much stress on the customer.
Raphael Laran
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It doesn't make sense that the people who started this micro-credit thing in India to demand the money if the people who borrow the money can't support themselves when they they need to pay them back. The point of micro credit is to help them out, but they can't do that if they aren't at a position where they can pay back the money and also be able to support themselves without it.
Parker Wodskow
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I agree that it's generous to give the money back to the women. The women of India work very hard to provide for their families. Often times, they recieve little pay for all the hard work that they do. For a women to kill herself over some loan issues is a horrible thing. That should give the government a head's up about how much trouble the loan companies cause for the women and it should make them want to create something better for them.
Kyne Onyenze
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Micro-credit seems like a good thing and looks like it could be really helpful. Especially when for many people it’s a way to get money. However now that the government decides to write off all these loans it may cause an issue. I mean these people barley have any money in the first place, where are they going to find money to repay the loans? Plus making them pay 120% interest and give up some of their possessions, that’s not right. When an act like this is helping so many people, asking them to repay the loan in this way, its not right, they need to think this out better.
Charlene Sigua
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I am shocked by this. The video we watched in class made it seem like micro-credit would help the villagers. Now it just seems to me that the company wants profit from the women who made loans. A woman killing herself over a loan issue is terrible. The company should lower the interest rate.
Anthony Chenevert
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The main thing that many companies and cooperation’s really strive for is to have high profits. But micro-credit isn't the smartest idea. Even though it is for a good cause trying to help poor families get back on the financially great status. But now the main focus is for them to make profits off of the loans by the interest is too high which eventually is going to make the profit of micro-credit reduce in size. For a women to kill herself makes my stomach turn because women of India do not receive much credit for what they do and they don’t have as much rights as men do. The government should really look into this situation and find a solution.
Bailey Banks
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With every great innovation there comes a negatively equal affect. These women were given loans to improve their lives, but times are getting harder, in this case interest is getting higher. Loaners should be able to give fair warning to the people who use these loans, so they won't be in shock when a bigger bill comes. That's just like having someone pay for gas and then telling the customers that there is a thirty-cent increase on every gallon.
Gabriel Camera
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I think that this idea was not well thought out. The person that said that this was going to work was wrong. And also, before you put your money in you have to think about the consequences and also what would happen if this doesn't work out.
Joey Wright
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I think that the idea of Micro-credit has helped them a lot. I remember watching that video in class a few months ago about the poverty rate in India and how people were so poor that they couldn't pay off their debts. In the video, it said that this new system has helped make a significant impact on them. I think regardless that the government of India should try to all that they can to pull their citizens out of poverty. With the population as high as it is today, more people would be born in poverty than out of poverty. Also they need to lower the interest rate that they have to pay back so it doesn't seem like they are trying to take back all of their money by force. The companies need to work with the citizens.
This foreshadows things to come in the world economy. This is due to the fact many countries are having a very difficult time in having very few members in poverty because of many jobs going to only the best applicant. Also, in many the jobs go to the men in the region of the world India is in because of generations of ideals. Micro-credit was thought to be the solution but as the economy starts to fail the rate in which the people pay back is getting smaller and smaller. Therefore very high percentages of the people are selling the items at a loss in order to pay the investors back.
ReplyDeleteMany of the people are saying that the idea of micro credit is failing in India, but it's not. It just isn't working out for the women they're talking about in this particular article. The women in the video were able to pay back their loans and they really benefitted from the micro credit. The people in the article are just having difficulty with this. For some people, it could be hard to pay back the loans and the bank owners need to understand this.
ReplyDeleteWow. This is just plain sad. Who has so little options that they revert to stealing from old Indian (sorry, South Asian) ladies? I mean really. If you are going to do something like this, do it to people who aren't already poor.
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Emily Panozzo
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I think that loans are a great way to get those in need on track and provide those in need with a share from those who are well off. I especially believe this when it comes to India. From class studies it is easy to see that there poverty there is very serious. I do however believe it is also fair to ask for money back after being so generous. It is a simple system. One can't just take endlessly because then everyone will be in trouble. India just doesn't seem very stable at the moment so it is going to take more than just micro-credit to establish some kind of tranquility in the country.
Prerna Kamnani
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I am surprised to witness a plan for such a good cause turn into a disaster. I find myself shocked to think that someone committed suicide due to harassment by the loan companies. I feel that India was progressing in the matter of rural areas, but the moneylenders are keeping them back from advancing. It is actually quite a disappointment to hear that such horrible things are happening due to the moneylenders. When we watched the video, micro-credit was a success in the villages. Although the villagers did not give any collateral, they still paid the loans back. This situation is different entirely. I feel like the villagers are almost trapped in this scheme to pay the loans. Although beginning intentions were good, micro-credit might not be the best way to help rural villagers succeed.
Ryan Rodriguez
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I think that the women have relied too much on other people. If they didn't rely on them then they wouldn't have to waste even more money paying them back. Yeah they did have a time where they were doing great, but to what cost. No matter what they do they will go back to the way they were living before they got loans.
Abin Joes
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India should not pay to much attention in receiving their loans back. It shows that India is a greedy and selfish country. The women of India work hard, day and night to provide food and care to their children. India should give out loans and shouldn't be expecting anything back from them, because they are in such poverty. I hope that India will resolve this issue soon. And then they will be a big bad super country like us in no time.
Jae Phan 4 Pd
ReplyDeleteI think it is quite sad that these indian women are suffering because of the micro-credit companies. It is even worse that the people who gave these women a chance to work for something in life, take it away. Since I watched the video, I had a feeling a system such as this would not be consistent for long.
Marcus Levine
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It is fascinating that this article is mainly focused on women becoming poorer. Does this mean that men are becoming poor as well? I sincerely cannot believe that the trouble of the economy has caused people to kill themselves. I would say this is kind of like an apocalyptic scenario where people who's entire lives were only focused about the wealth of a piece of paper money were destroyed because of a failing economy, but there is no apocalypse except for the fact that no one is truly equal.
Chris Bready
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The main goal for companies is to make money. This is very sad that a woman killed herself over not getting enough money. This should be a heads up to the company that they need to treat their workers with respect and show that they care for them.
Nice idea but the fact is people aren't paying back. These people need to know how loans work and try to profit from the loans and pay back the companies in full, but they may be using it on things that they don't need. This could have caused such a backlash.
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As Lloyd said, it is not at all surprising that the micro-credit system failed. Why would someone even begin to think about putting a Western idea in effect overseas when the system does not even work in America? The banks in America have trouble with loans not getting paid, and people being bailed out by the government as result of financial issues. I think it is a shame and disgrace that the westerners are causing innocent Indian women to commit suicide. These women are uneducated, which is not their fault, and now find themselves tied to a loan with 120 percent interest that would be virtually impossible to ever repay. They basically have no idea what they are getting themselves into.
Amber Tunstall
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If women are killing themselves then obviously someone is doing something wrong. It seems that now-a-days, economy all over is going down the drain. When they first started this movement, things started improving a bit for the poorer people over there, but now it seems it's gotten even worse. Maybe everyone should just sit down and think about what they did wrong, then fix it. It greatly disturbs me to hear about women committing suicide because banks are biting at their skirts. Just goes to show that every good thing has a downfall.
John Gann
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I think it is sad that these loans did not work out for the people of the small villages of India. The micro-credit loaning plan did seem to good to be true. In any financial situation where both ends are benefitting from the deal each one will begin to slack eventually marking and rendering the arrangement useless. This is just a simple demonstration of economic self-destruction.
Sarah Raines
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Situations like this are unfortunate. India isn’t doing so well financially in some areas and it is hard for some people to get by. From the video we saw they had started a system that seemed to work well and it seemed like India could have seriously been helped. But it’s weird how fast it had dissipated. The idea no longer became valid and now once again India is struggling with their situation. Micro credit was outstanding and it is a shame that you can never keep both ends in the air. When falling one end will always have to lead.
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ReplyDeleteI think this whole micro credit thing is a disappointment. To not have these loans is sad because in the small villages in India people you make very little money can not feed there little/ loved ones. I think India will fall apart, people will start going crazy, having riots, and all this other stuff. But I think thats already starting to happen.
With the interest rate being more than the loan itself, the people can't afford not to pay back their loans on time. If we implemented that strategy in the United States of America then a lot of people wouldn't take out loans.
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The way I see it, the micro-credit companies shouldn't have given loans to the people there if they didn't think they would get paid back. It was an unsafe investment to begin with without having a back up plan for people who would be unable to pay back their loans. The micro-credit companies should have been more careful, and made sure the people they loaned money to, would eventually make enough to pay them back. It's not that people are refusing to pay back the companies, it's that they can't, and thats the companies fault for giving such large loans out. Them harassing their customers is only making things worse.
I think that this situation just isn't very good because in India there are many families struggling to survive with the amount of money they make. We had watched a video about the population in India and how they were starting to raise there economy but, as we can see it is already starting to go downhill. Overall I think that the the building plan is great however the construction workers have bad eye sight.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone and think this idea was not very well planned. They should have had a back up plan or something if it failed. But the interest rates were too high for the poor to pay back.The woman needed the money to keep her family healthy. I think they should make a better idea in which the people could benefit from this too. The money lenders need to stop being so greedy and selfish and want so much money for themselves.
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I'm surprised that this idea has too found a way to be a bad one. India has been trying very hard to help the rural people, but moneylenders that ask back for so much money is not helping these people get back on track! The video we watched showed how successful the micro-credit idea was, but now that too is causing problems. This is why Grameen Bank had such a high loan-recovery rate, because they put trust in these people, and they faithfully and gratefully paid the money back. This makes me wonder if Grameen Bank is one of the ones guilty of hassling people for their money. The law that is restricting micro-credit makes no sense, it should be revoked. Obviously this is not a better situation, because the moneylenders they now have to go to are more corrupt then those few micro-credit businesses. As poor as these people are, why are you making them pay 120% interest and swear their prized possessions? As people, we need to do better.
Ervin Ricasio
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This is a very interesting article. This is making India look very selfish and impatient. Many people in India are in need of money, but America still needs more money. Don’t you think we should be taking care of our problems first before moving on? It was terrifying to find out that many people are committing suicide due to no money in their hands. They need to think about their actions before they perform them, because as long as you work hard, you would be successful in life and at least get a couple bucks somehow. It is crazy how a great idea turns into a disaster. The economy is still not in great shape, but hopefully it will improve in the next couple of years.
Ervin Ricasio
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This is a very interesting article. This is making India look very selfish and impatient. Many people in India are in need of money, but America still needs more money. Don’t you think we should be taking care of our problems first before moving on? It was terrifying to find out that many people are committing suicide due to no money in their hands. They need to think about their actions before they perform them, because as long as you work hard, you would be successful in life and at least get a couple bucks somehow. It is crazy how a great idea turns into a disaster. The economy is still not in great shape, but hopefully it will improve in the next couple of years.
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ReplyDeleteIndia should not pay to much attention in receiving their loans back. It shows that India is a greedy and selfish country.The whole point of loans is to allow people to have enough breathing room while accumulating enough money to pay back. Them harassing their customers is only making things worse.
This is a great example of why the general population cannot be trusted to make the correct decisions. They had a golden opportunity to raise themselves out of the hole they were in and blew it all away by refusing to pay back some loans. A few probably were forced to default, but I'm sure plenty could have payed it back if they had chosen to.
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Like basically everyone said before me.. this would be a good idea, if they handled it right. In India, there are so many people struggling to survive, and trying to pay for their family. We know that India is trying to raise their ecomony, but we can all tell its going great.
Amita Batra
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When we watched, the micro-credit video, I thought of the idea as pure genius. To see it start to fail was unimaginable at the time. But now I feel like maybe the problem is because everyone wants money currently. Everyone is in need during this recession. Therefore, we have to look at it from both points of view. India needs its citizens to pay loans back for India as a whole to survive, but India's people need money to survive as individuals.
Erica Barrera
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I think that the micro-credit idea was the best think for the women of India. It gave them a chance to actually do something in life. They should of known that if they were going to use this then they needed to be ready when the loan recovery officers came to collect the money they were loaned. I do think that the micro-credit people are charging the people high interest rate. Because of the high interest rate and the harassment, the women are killing themselves cause they can pay what they loan. I believe that is totally wrong and they should come ask for the money when the women are ready to give it to them.
Lillian Cancino
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I think that micro-credit is very helpful to the women and in their situations especially. I think that the government should be more considerate about the people asking for these loans and that they should not sign off the loans of the people who really need it most. Since there has not been any new loans for the last six months, I think that it is the government's fault that women are having to refer to other untrusted moneymaker companies. I think that by not signing any other new loans, the government is putting their own people, mainly the single woman who work for their families, in danger.
The country isn't the issue it's certain people. I've seen over 5 people hating on a pretty decent country (though I wouldn't want to go there again). Look there are about more than just 30 villages in India. Though most of the villages using micro-credit probably failed there will always be those who lead the way by showing not only the village but the country saying "I will take responsibility. Also there are pretty nice rural/modern areas (still wouldn't want to go) so don't think that all of India is the same just... majority of India is filled with people afraid of change (no offense if any was taken)
ReplyDeleteI think that this micro credit thing isn't a great idea. The interest rate is much higher than the loan, which is a big problem for people who don't have enough money and can barely afford the cost of living today. This should have been planned out a little better.
ReplyDeleteOf coarse it going to take longer time for the poor Indians to pay of their loans. How do they expect them to pay it of when they don't have any money? But then again, I understand that it will take years just for them to pay micro credit back because of their low income. What I would do is only give out loans to though who want to start a business or pay who can pay back loans. Then, I raise the interest and use the money I get from the interest to give to those who apply with little to no money so that even if they don't pay, I would still get my money back from the high interest I got from the one that did pay. That way, there will be no lose just gain.
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Grace Bonojo
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I never thought that such a great idea would become bankrupt so fast, sure it was bound to hit some snags but it this is unbelievable. It's disturbing to hear that some women were willing to kill them self in order to get the harassment to stop. They should be more careful the way they try to collect their money. The micro-loan company should have made sure that they had enough collateral behind each loan before they approved it. However the women are wrong for not paying back the money they borrowed. This micro-loan plan must have seemed good on paper but it was not well thought out in reality.