Monday, September 27, 2010

Court allows agents to secretly put GPS trackers on cars

Court allows agents to secretly put GPS trackers on cars

By Dugald McConnell, CNN

Drug Enforcement Administration agents in Oregon in 2007 surreptitiously attached a GPS to the silver Jeep owned by Juan Pineda-Moreno, whom they suspected of growing marijuana, according to court papers.

When Pineda-Moreno was arrested and charged, one piece of evidence was the GPS data, including the longitude and latitude of where the Jeep was driven, and how long it stayed. Prosecutors asserted the Jeep had been driven several times to remote rural locations where agents discovered marijuana being grown, court documents show.

Pineda-Moreno eventually pleaded guilty to conspiracy to grow marijuana, and is serving a 51-month sentence, according to his lawyer.

But he appealed on the grounds that sneaking onto a person's driveway and secretly tracking their car violates a person's reasonable expectation of privacy.

"They went onto the property several times in the middle of the night without his knowledge and without his permission," said his lawyer, Harrison Latto.

The U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the appeal twice -- in January of this year by a three-judge panel, and then again by the full court earlier this month. The judges who affirmed Pineda-Moreno's conviction did so without comment.

Latto says the Ninth Circuit decision means law enforcement can place trackers on cars, without seeking a court's permission, in the nine western states the California-based circuit covers.

The ruling likely won't be the end of the matter. A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., arrived at a different conclusion in similar case, saying officers who attached a GPS to the car of a suspected drug dealer should have sought a warrant.

Experts say the issue could eventually reach the U.S. Supreme Court.

One of the dissenting judges in Pineda-Moreno's case, Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, said the defendant's driveway was private and that the decision would allow police to use tactics he called "creepy" and "underhanded."

"The vast majority of the 60 million people living in the Ninth Circuit will see their privacy materially diminished by the panel's ruling," Kozinksi wrote in his dissent.

"I think it is Orwellian," said Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, which advocates for privacy rights.

"If the courts allow the police to gather up this information without a warrant," he said, "the police could place a tracking device on any individual's car -- without having to ever justify the reason they did that."

But supporters of the decision see the GPS trackers as a law enforcement tool that is no more intrusive than other means of surveillance, such as visually following a person, that do not require a court's approval.

"You left place A, at this time, you went to place B, you took this street -- that information can be gleaned in a variety of ways," said David Rivkin, a former Justice Department attorney. "It can be old surveillance, by tailing you unbeknownst to you; it could be a GPS."

He says that a person cannot automatically expect privacy just because something is on private property.

"You have to take measures -- to build a fence, to put the car in the garage" or post a no-trespassing sign, he said. "If you don't do that, you're not going to get the privacy."

103 comments:

  1. I personally do not agree with police officers being able to put a tracking device on your car, which is on your property without a warrant. Police officers cannot enter or search your property with out a warrant, so what makes this any different? It's not fair being taken by surprise like that, sure thats the law over there, but i think it's a law that should be changed. I like what Mark Rotenburg said: "I think it's Orwellian", because it is. In George Orwell's book 1984 he told of a time when everything everyone did was monitored and controlled. One false step and they disappeared. They knew where you were all the time. So, this is what thats like, or a step towards it anyway. I think we are supposed to be able to trust our police force, sadly (because of this) we cannot. This is not fair and is a practice that should be STOPPED.

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  2. Danielle Uy 5th PeriodSeptember 28, 2010 at 2:04 PM

    As a reader,I have to say the article was quite a humdinger because it left me on the fence for a while. Towards the end, I agreed it was approriate for the chip to be placed on the car. The placing of the chip is okay because privacy is when one keeps thoughts & possessions away. The car was not parked in the garage and there was no sign to display trespassing. A warrant isn't required either because one isn't going through another's possession. The chip was logical evidence. Especially since, the victim could still provide a testimony. The thing is being suspected and traveling to rural, remote areas is odd. In this case the victim can't win. C'mon now, rural places to travel are time consuming and the victim is claiming privacy rights.

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  3. Jessica Dove
    5th period

    I don’t think that it was right for the people to put the tracking device on the car. There are other ways to find out if that person was growing marijuana. You don’t have to sneak around and put a tracking device on the car. I don’t think it’s a big enough deal to go to the Supreme Court about, but I’m not in Juan’s shoes.
    I think that it’s an invasion of property to do that to someone.

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  4. Fifth Period

    I think that it's perfectly fine to place a GPS on a suspect's car without them knowing. The whole point of a GPS is to find information of where the suspect could be, find a pattern, and then make a surprise action. However, asking for permission kind of defeats the purpose of this. Asking for permission just messes up the whole deal. There is a serial killer on the loose, and the police arrive at his house. He'll say, "Oh, you know, you're a serial killer. And we're going to arrest you tomorrow. So don't run away or anything. Because we need you in jail. Bye! Have a nice day!" As soon as the policeman leaves, the serial killer will run away. So I believe that if someone is a suspect, then they don't deserve to be asked for permission. Just do the mission and get it right.

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  5. I can't believe that cops would do that. You can't just walk onto someone's property and put a GPS tracker on their car, which is also their property! Sure he shouldn't have been growing the marijuana, but they could have followed him or something. Would you want the government tracking you with a GPS? No. There are other ways they could have found the marijuana, and if they decided that they absolutely had to track him with a GPS, then they should have gotten a warrant.

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  6. Myles Patterson
    4th period

    I agree that ruling was just. The man got caught doing wrong and he was punished for his wrongdoing. Simple as that. But for them to place a GPS tracker on his car, that is an invasion of privacy. What if he was innocent? They placed a tracker on is car because they suspected that he was growing marijuana. What they had been wrong and he wasn't? Or maybe if they made a mistake and put the tracker on the wrong car? Then you just spent time tracking someone with just a hunch or a hint or proof. They should find another way. In fact, they already have other ways to prove people of involvement with illegal substances. I guess they're trying to keep up with technology or something.

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  7. Cortney Corley
    Period 4

    I do think that the accused had a good point. It was an invasion of privacy. But, he was suspicious and doing illegal activity, which is wrong. I understand why the they needed to put a tracker on the car. They wouldn't have found out about his actions without it. I can see why Pineda-Moreno is upset, but he shouldn't have been doing anything illegal in the first place. The supreme court should deal with it, but look at both sides of the situation.

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  8. Period 3

    Putting a GPS on somebody's car is going way too far. If they did that to me, and I wasn't even doing anything wrong, I would be really mad. Yes, he was growing the marijuana, and it was good that they caught him, but putting a GPS to basically stalk him is wrong. Police shouldn't be able to do that. Plus, it was his property, even if he didn't have a fence, or a sign. The police should have a warrant in order to do things like this.

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  9. Ajeet Baath
    6th Pd.
    I also agree that the ruling was just. I say this because it shouldn’t matter if this drug dealer wants privacy, if he’s breaking the law, he should be deprived of that particular right. Just think, if they didn’t put a GPS tracker on that guy’s car, he would have left the courtroom without even a slap on the wrist. The drug dealer got what he deserved; he must have been high when he decided to challenge the Drug Enforcement Administration

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  10. Katie Snyder (2nd period)September 28, 2010 at 4:00 PM

    In my opinion, I disagree with the government. It is wrong to track people cars without their knowledge or permission. That is part of their property. Back when we were still part of Britain, there were no warrants. Instead they had a writ of assistance. There was no judge signature, or stamp. The soldier would simply write it themselves. Today, to invade someones privacy, like a house, or a car you need a warrant! This is crazy and should not be considered legal.

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  11. Jay Shah:) 6th period
    Ok, I see that a bunch of you are whining over this. Did they do it to your cars? No. They did it to someone who they thought was a criminal, and what happened? They were right. I believe that a criminal deserve privacy, especially this man who is selling drugs that could harm people's lives. And the GPS doesn't have a camera to see what you were doing, so it just tells them where you went. What are they going to do, tell your wife on you? Exactly, it just tells them where you have been. I wouldn't exactly love the cops knowing where I was, but if it is to save the lives of many then I would "take one for the team". This time it was drug related, what about if the cops do it again, and they find someone going to somewhere every week for a hour, and they find Osama? Is Osama's lawyer going to say, "You cant track one of my people!" Exactly, so I think what the cops did was fine.

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  12. Sean Kelly
    2nd Period

    You know what, while reading this I thought it would be wrong to do this, but now I do think I agree with this situation. Because the last paragraph in the article is true. If you dont have some kind of thing blocking your house such as a fence, no tresspassing sighn, etc. You will probably find someone on your property. Also this is perfectly find, I dont think it should'nt matter if they put a GPS on somebody's car. Because the guy was obviously not innocent and that is why he is serving time.

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  13. Period 2

    In some what ways I agree with the agents that they should place GPS systems on the car but then it would cause some problems with them in court. What I think is that AFTER a prisoner leaves prison for about 5 years or more they should place GPS systems on them because most prisoners kill even after they been to prison so they should place GPS systems on prisoners cars but to be suspected to be doing something bad and haven't done anything wrong is not right and it makes no sense.

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  14. @Sean Kelly: Not necessarily. Not everyone has a "no trespassing" sign on their house. Just because of the lack of that sign doesn't mean I should expect someone (nor do they have the right to) be on my property messing with my stuff without my permission.

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  15. Anthony Chenevert
    2nd

    Honestly, I would have to agree with this accusation, because if that certain person was doing wrong-such as the person-in the article it would be more helpful to catching them. I think that they only should put GPS's on prisoner/ex convicts to protect the citizens. Of course, that would be the smart thing to do. One good thing about have some kind of barrier around your house it would be easier for trespasser to trespass and offenders. You can never be to safe.

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  16. At first I had mixed feelings about this article. It could be a bad thing for someone to sneak onto your property and you not knowing that your being followed. But by doing this the police could be saving the city from crime. I think if they do put something on your car to track you, they should give a certain time period. And when that time period runs out, the police would have to tell you that they have been tracking you. If they follow out with those plans, I find no harm in tracking a suspects car.

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  17. Ervin Ricasio
    5th Period

    I am shocked. What kind of cop would place a GPS on a person’s car to track them down? That’s trespassing one’s property without permission. We all know that he shouldn’t be having that marijuana in the first place, but why would someone try to put a device that tracks wherever they go? They could’ve worked this situation out a much simpler way by following him where ever they go, but I really don’t think that GPS would be a great idea.

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  18. Ervin Ricasio
    5th Period

    I am shocked. What kind of cop would place a GPS on a person’s car to track them down? That’s trespassing one’s property without permission. We all know that he shouldn’t be having that marijuana in the first place, but why would someone try to put a device that tracks wherever they go? They could’ve worked this situation out a much simpler way by following him where ever they go, but I really don’t think that GPS would be a great idea.

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  19. Charlene Sigua
    4th Period

    I think that putting a GPS in someone's car without an innocent person knowing or having their permission is wrong. Sure the police caught the guy, but for other people it would be very weird to find out that you were being followed, especially if you didn't even do anything wrong. But there are some positives to this. For example, if the police put a GPS inside a former criminal's car and they were being followed by the police, that would be protecting the citizens and it would be great to know that people are being protected by criminals. So what I think is that the police should just put the GPS inside a former prisoner/ criminal's car.

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  20. John Gann
    Period 4

    This article sounds very familiar to a telephone bugging issue. I believe our government has the right to interrogate suspicious people living among us. The issue is if these people are rightly prosecuted. Many people take both sides of the spectrum.The more paranoid side is that anybody can be and is a terrorist suspect, and is a threat to our national security; but vise versa on the other side where nobody is a threat until they do something. There are threats to the constitution on both ends. One a nation not keeping a promise to its citizens to keep them safe and another is the government falsely accusing somebody, both of these issues are big deals because our nation follows the guidelines set forth by our forefathers. It doesn’t matter what we think as long as we keep our nation safe.

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  21. If some one was on my property without permission, I would not be happy. I would want him to be fined, or at least ne given a punishment. Unless it is a cop. Then I wouldn't be as mad, because they have the right to do that. I agree with Lauren. They can't put a tracking device on your car and then use it 30 years later. That is wrong.

    Chris Bready
    period 6

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  22. I agree and disagree with this article. I disagree because its not right to get on someone's property. However, since they did it for lawful purposes I agree to this more than I disagree. As long as the GPS was placed in his car to catch him doing something illegal, I don't see a problem with this. I think its perfectly fine to ignore someone's privacy if its for a lawful purpose. Since they caught this guy we may have more information to the drug dealing business. So, I think its completely okay to do what they did.

    Ann Mathew
    P.6

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  23. 5th Period

    I personally feel that this article could go both ways. On one hand, the government is suspicious about a person doing an illegal activity and has to investigate some way to prove it. On the other hand, to what extreme does the government need to go to prove its' point? I mean, if the person is suspicious and acting in a suspicious manner, aren't there other ways to prove that this person is breaking the law? If the government needed more evidence maybe they could have found a different way to do this. It seems to me that all the sneaking around makes everyone suspicious of the government, which in the long run isn't really what the government needs. The government needs the public to trust them and to do investigations in an honest way. If there is an approach to the GPS tracking that is honest, then there is no harm in doing it, but I am not sure that is possible.

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  24. Shelby Leigh Hendon.!(:
    Period 4.(:

    I don't agree with the people who " [support] the decision see the GPS trackers as a law enforcement tool". I feel that putting a GPS tracker in someones car without their knowledge is a violation of our rights as citizens. I mean, I bet they [the police] had good intentions, when they put the GPS tracker on the car, and intended for it to track criminal activity, but at the same time, criminal or not, he was still an American, and deserves the same right to privacy as everyone else.

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  25. This idea can be a good thing or it can be a bad thing. It depends on how you think of it. If someone is doing bad, wanted by the police, or known to have drugs or any illegal substance or item in their possesion then this could be very good at getting those criminals off of the streets and out of neighborhoods. But I think that it is invading someone's personal property and area. It does more good things than bad. It's a good decision. I believe that this should be in all people who have been to jail or owe money for ticket's cars.

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  26. Lloyd Farley (2nd Period)September 29, 2010 at 8:00 PM

    “Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither” – Benjamin Franklin. When the ‘State gains more control, the government takes on a tyrannical position and we lose liberty. Historically and conventionally all of these regimes (Nazi, Soviet, Iraqi, Iranian, North Korean, China, etc.) are protected by the police. The police are a government agency making it an arm of the government; whenever the police gain more control so does the government. For example the Soviet rule, to insure power, the ‘state made the KGB (secret police) to ensure there was no dissidents or opposition of the regime and basically followed people around. They certainly didn’t use GPS devices, but monitored activities by wire tapping and other means. This was all done in the name of ‘State security. The article says that “a person cannot automatically expect privacy”, but all Americans should. The government should acknowledge this because privacy has been considered a basic human right in The Supreme Court such as The Roe v Wade case, and is protected by virtue of the 9th amendment.

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  27. At the very beginning of the article, I thought it was wrong to put a tracking device on a person's car in the same person's property because it's the land of the "free". If you really think about it though, it wouldn't have mattered if he was an innocent person. It was his fault for growing marijuana and getting caught, if he had hid it better the police wouldn't have assumed anything and would of left him alone. They did what they thought was best for the city and everyone in it. They thought they were helping stop a serious drug trade. I believe they did what was right, even if it was a secret way in doing it

    Period 6

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  28. Jenny Chang
    Period 5

    Even though sneaking into other people's driveway is a invasion of privacy, the police did this to find out the illegal activity the suspect was doing. I think in this case it is appropriate to plant the GPS onto the car. If the suspect did not do anything illegal then he would not be afraid to let any one know his whereabout. Also, if the police did not put the GPS on to his car then he would still be growing marijuana.

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  29. 3rd period
    I don't think what they did is that bad. In my opinion you shouldn't care about something like this unless you have something to hide. I do wish that they had not just invaded his privacy but they had a pretty good idea that he was selling drugs.

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  30. Sam Biedler 5th period.September 30, 2010 at 2:36 PM

    I agree that it's okay to put a tracking device in someone's car, yet I think it's an invasion of privacy. You should have to be able to have a warrant in order to do that. The benefit to have a tracking device in a suspects car, is if you have the right person and that your getting hardcore evidence. The bad thing however is if you have the wrong person, its an invasion of privacy! so there are good benefits and there are no good benefits.

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  31. @ Jay Shah
    First of all no one is whining, we're just stating our opinions on the matter. We "whiners" as you call us, are scared this could go out of control as the government tries to use this even more. As Myles P. said, what if they put the tracking device on the the wrong guy? And are you also supporting the tapping of phones if it means it will save many lives? I don't think anyone here wants the government listening in on their phone calls. Don't attack people's concerns with names. And when you said this: "what about if the cops do it again, and they find someone going to somewhere every week for a hour, and they find Osama? Is Osama's lawyer going to say, "You cant track one of my people!"" Please ask yourself if this situation made sense. This hypothetical man "going somewhere every week for an hour" would not be one of the lawyers "people". You should think about what you say and what it really means.

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  32. Mishi Jain
    2 period

    So I see this is in two ways. The first way: police getting secretly into your car and putting a GPS WITHOUT a warrant is WRONG. Just because you're the police doesn't meant that you have the right to do whatever without a warrant. If you want to do it, get a warrant. The police doing this is almost like back when soldiers would come and live in your house if they felt like it, without any "specific permission" or anything like that. You have to get a warrant to do this otherwise it is getting into someone's privacy.

    The second way I see this: On the other hand, I think this was a brilliant idea someone came up with. This could be such an efficent way to catch criminals and not just them also the places where they are getting their "drugs" so it's like catching so many people at the same time. Not only did they catch Pinedo-Moreno they also found the places he was getting his drugs from and that helped stop those places too. The only thing is, is that the police should get a warrant before doing this! That's it.

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  33. I highly disagree with everyone that speaks in the document. If your property (car) is on the premises of you private property (home) then no one should come onto you property and do anything or put anything on your possessions. It doesn’t matter if there isn’t a "no trespassing" sign up, no one should be on you property without your consent. The cops are also in the wrong as well as the criminal so they should be held reasonable for their actions as well.

    Alexandria Stanciel, period: 3rd

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  34. This issue is a matter of degrading our rights. Police officers, or better yet NO ONE has the right to import a tracking device in private property without a warrant or without the consult of us citizens. This is just not right and I think someone should take a stand and speak for our people and citizens privacy concerning this issue.

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  35. Carolyne Lu
    Period 3

    I think it's wrong for the police to stick a GPS on someone's car inconspicuously, but it's also good that the police are trying to catch him. These types of scenarios require a judgment call. Sure, the police did not have any permission to do this sort of thing, but if it's for the good of the people then why not? If it was proved that Pineda-Moreno was innocent, then no harm done. They could simply just take the GPS back off. I would understand how he would feel violated in that case. However, this guy was a drug dealer. Why do we want people doing drugs? We don't. So even though the police were wrong to secretly "stalk" him, (it is a little creepy...) it was for the better of the society.

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  36. Marcus Levine
    4th period
    9/29/10

    This is a major violation in private property. It's why the government gave it to us isn't it, because it belongs to us, and no one else. What really annoys me is this statement "A person cannot automatically expect privacy just because something is on private property". "You have to take measures -- to build a fence, to put the car in the garage" or post a no-trespassing sign, he said. "If you don't do that, you're not going to get the privacy". Well I’m sorry if I was told that this is my land, and I can protect it by any means necessary, especially if some random guy come around my house 12:00 a.m. and puts something on my car. For all I know, he could be planting a bomb, and if I catch him, am I just supposed to say "Well if that's all your doing then I am somehow ok with that". NO! I am going to tell him that this is my property, and that is my car, so back up. NOW!

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  37. Matthew Louis
    6th period

    I disagree; it’s an invasion of privacy. Law enforcement doesn't need to know where you are all the time. That ruins the aspect of being free and being an American citizen. I believe the only time they should be allowed to do this is when someone is bailed out of jail. At the same time I also agree with the fact that if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. But it ruins the affect of being free, because if you are an American citizen who abides by the laws, and you find out that you are a victim, you won't feel free.

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  38. Alvin Mei
    2nd Period

    I would most likely support the people who are having their privacy taken away by the law enforcers, because the police suspects, it doesn't mean its true, and if it not true, then people have their privacy taken away for no reason. Beside that, having a tracking GPS inside a car can be a good thing, to stop drug dealers from spreading drugs throughout the United States Of America.

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  39. Reading this article, I have to disagree because a car that you own is your personal belonging and to put a chip is like a violation to you space. It may sound like a good idea, but I'm sure there may be other ways to solve this problem.

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  40. The way I see it, the GPS trackers are perfectly reasonable. There's nothing wrong with it if they've got a good reason. For example, they used it to figure out whether or not a man participated in the dealing of marijuana. It was used to catch a criminal, and therefore I think it's fine to do so. As David Rivkin said, "You have to take measures [or] you're not going to get the privacy."

    Daniel Thai
    Period 5

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  41. Jade Martin
    4th period

    Im actually not that suprised that all this happened. Just because something says private property, it doesn't guarantee that it is actually safe and private. I do not agree with what happened at all. I think that there should be certain limits that people are able to pass or not.

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  42. Deara Mayo
    5th period

    I think that police being able to put a GPS on your car is kind of scary. Because not all cops have good intentions when it comes to this kind of stuff. I maybe agree with putting a GPS on someones car who has a history like an illegal history. But it is your property and an invasion of you right to privacy. I'm kind of on the fence about it.

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  43. Joel Jacob Period 4October 1, 2010 at 4:55 PM

    This is horrible! Why would you put a GPS tracker into someone else's car? If the law wanted to do that they should have got a warrant and searched his house. This did help to get a bad guy off the street but I think they could have found a better way to solve this problem.

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  44. Yvonne Scisco 4th period






    Personaly I think it's wrong to put gps's in people's car's no matter what the situation it's still wrong.

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  45. Alex Cyriac Period 5October 1, 2010 at 6:05 PM

    I whole-heartedly support putting gps trackers on cars of unsuspecting people. If they are not doing anything wrong, then nothing can come out of it. The cops will attach the gps tracker, see where they go, and remove it. When a person takes part in illegal activities, the cops will act to charge them. Either nothing will happen, or crimes that would have gone unsolved can be stopped.

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  46. 5th
    I believe that yes, those who are suspect to crime should be monitored. Not those considered innocent, but the ones who were going to be monitored anyway. The only reason why they called it invasion of privacy was because the man in possession didn't want to go to jail, and might have even gained some money if taken to court. While I do believe in the right to keep to yourself, if you are a suspect in a crime, police should be using the great technology we have developed to track them down.

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  47. Nick Grieger
    2nd period

    I believe that police do not have the right to track a person with a GPS without a warrant. This is just like going into someone's home without a warrant. This action violates the fourth amendment. I think that the police should still be able to put GPS on cars, but only if they have a warrant.

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  48. To a high level of certainty, one could say that the cops were right in what they did. I totally agree with them on this issue. One day or the other, the suspect would have had to be caught for illegal activities. Planting a GPS in his car wouldn’t hurt him in anyway. It was just for the cops to stabilize contact with him and his activity. If the cops hadn’t done this then they would have to wait for a golden opportunity to catch him red-handed. This might even take years which is not a good choice as most cops have other cases to take care of. This action was perfect for the situation.

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  49. Malcolm Berry
    Period 5

    As anyone can clearly see placing a GPS tracking device under someones vehicle is deceitful. And most important a violation of there constitutional rights. But, to ensure our safety as American people measures like that may need to be taken, even though I think it should be done by grant of permission of a federal court. Not to be done out of free will. When our founding fathers wrote our constitution they believed in protection of rights and freedoms, and placing something under someones car without an official grant is just unconstitutional.

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  50. Cops do not have the right to perform any sort of investigational procedures using the suspect’s property without his/her permission. The marijuana dealer could file a case against them in court saying that an explicit violation of amendment 4 was what took place in his case. The cops must be penalized for playing such an inopportune trick on the person. I wouldn’t personally want to be followed by cops even if I am innocent. It is the right that the nation has given us. A person’s freedom must not be captured by officials for any sort of investigational purposes. There are other ways to prove his guilt; cheapest of all should not be chosen by the respective police officials. This is what I have to say about the matter in this article.

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  51. Sarah Raines
    4th period
    Well I do think it is very interesting, but I’m on the fence about the topic. It’s important to have a warrant because, as stated, without one the police could do whatever they wanted without justification. The point of having to get a warrant is so that police can’t do whatever they want and must have probable cause. As far as property goes you don’t have a right to trespass on someone’s property if they don’t want you there. But I guess if he never said that he didn’t want the D.E.A. on his property it wasn’t necessarily trespassing. In general he should’ve just obeyed the law.

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  52. Prerna Kamnani
    4th Period

    I agree yet I disagree with this article. I agree with the fact that they put the GPS tracker with good intentions. They caught the guy illegally growing marijuana. I disagree with the fact that they just did it. They did not get a warrant or anything. That is an invasion of privacy and property. It is unconstitutional because it goes against the fourth amendment. It is a good idea, but I think one should be required to get a warrant before putting the tracker on.

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  53. Well, this is America and anything against the protection of peoples' rights, including a person's privacy, is against the Constitution, the law of the land. No matter what 'good' this does to catch criminals, this idea is against what we define America to be, the land of the free. Of course, there is the idea that the right should be modified, but any modification is literally against the beliefs our Founding Fathers had. The point of having America is the undeniable rule that there are rights and freedoms reserved only to the people. The only problem is that these rights always tend to be 'modified' to reject the freedoms people have, which is why some people believe it is 'alright' to have these privacy invading cameras, since they have always thought modifying the rights for the better will always turn out good. This cannot work out in the end, and people must not given in to letting their rights become abused by the government who 'promised' to protect them.

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  54. Francescha Rundle
    Period 5

    I think that putting a tracking device on a person's car is wrong. If the police do not have a warrant to do this, then they should get one. Also, the car being tracked is someone's property. People, even the authorities, should not be able to put a GPS tracker on somebody's own vehicle without their knowing. In the end, I believe that tracking a person without them knowing, even if they are a suspect, is unfair.

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  55. K'Vonna Johnson
    5th period
    I agree and disagree with the GPS tracker on cars. I agree because it can give evidence in a case and situation when it is needed. I disagree because you have no privacy.Also what if the tracker is wrong, it isn't really that accurate. What if it wasn't you driving the car,what if it was your friend or something?

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  56. Jeffrey Jhingree
    4th Period

    I think that it would be okay for police to put GPS trackers in suspected criminal's cars. But they have to have enough clues and facts about the person before they put a GPS in their car. I believe that the police should only do this if they are trying to track down a criminal and think that that is the person. You shouldn't have to worry if you didn't do anything.

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  57. This basically is a controversial topic as it points out how our country can be flawed in some ways. This idea of placing tracking devices on everyone's car can enhance security and strengthen the law, but it goes against the Constitution which is the law of the land. The Founding Fathers purposely gave freedoms and rights and wrote it descriptively in the Bill of Rights to protect the citizens from the impeding doom of a country devoid of rights and liberty. These ideals are what made our country distinct from others, which is why the country must decide, freely, the lesser of two evils of whether to protect our streets or guard our rights.

    -3rd Period

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  58. It's bogus to believe the police would do that. I know if the police were in the suspect's position they wouldn't appreciate the invasion. I do think that a warrant would've been appropriate. Instead of invading privacy by this way, they should have done something that wouldn't involve the suspect's privacy in such a way.

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  59. 6th period.

    I believe that the police would have to have at least a warrant or something to be able to put a GPS or tracking device on your car or on any property for that matter. It's your private property as Josh said and I would overall be pretty mad. As for this case, I would have to say that even though police suspected him to be been growing marijuana, they still don't have the right to do that. I believe he is guilty but they didn’t have to take it that far.

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  60. Nick Mathai
    6th period

    I don't agree with the people who support the decision to see the GPS trackers as a law enforcement tool. I feel that putting a GPS tracker in someones car without their knowledge is a violation of our rights as citizens and is a breach in their own private lives. I mean its like someones watching you all the time you go somewhere. I bet they had good intentions, when they put the GPS tracker on the car, and intended for it to track criminal activity, but at the same time he was still a ctizen of the United States and deserves the same right to privacy as everyone else.

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  61. Police do not have the right to takeover a person's individual freedoms. Planting of the GPS in the car without the suspect's permission was one such act for which the officers could be penalized under state law. Keeping track of his movement was a good thing but there are other, more reasonable ways to do it. I personally think there should be some sort of punishment for the officers, on the other hand they should also be awarded for spotting and successfully capturing the marijuana dealer.

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  62. How can planting a GPS in a suspect's car harm him ? The cops just want to know whatever he is up to. He could be dealing drugs or may be just wandering around selling packets of sugar. In order to prove his guilt, the cops ought to do something like this. It is for sure not invading his personal freedom as nothing of his personal privacy is physically being handled by the cops. It is perfectly alright for the peace keepers of the town to keep watch on a suspect.

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  63. Amber Tunstall
    4th period

    I think police should have to have a warrant. It is against the constitution to invade someones privacy like that, no matter who they are. If you live in America, you have the right of privacy and the police invading that right is wrong. Soon they'll be breaking even more rights.

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  64. Samantha Twardowski
    3rd period
    I believe that it is perfectly fine to put a tracking GPS in peoples car. If people are going to do something wrong they deserve to get caught. Having a GPS in a persons car will make it easier for people who are doing wrong to get caught. It will eliminate many things that people are doing wrong such as doing drugs or even drinking and driving. Also I think if you have your car out in the driveway not locked or in a safe place then their car should get a GPS tracking device in it to show what could happen to it.

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  65. Sean Nelson
    3rd Period

    I think that this new ruling of police being able to put a tracking device in your car without a warrant is absurd. Yes it is a good way to catch criminals, as seen, but it is just a violation of people's privacy, and the fourth amendment. If this ruling is going to pass, then police should at least be required to have a warrant to do so.

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  66. I believe that it was perfectly acceptable to put a tracker on someone's car without consent. If you have nothing to hide it won't affect you, but if you do then it can be valuable evidence. I think people think they are entitled to certain privacies that they are not. Most everything is not private and can be looked at by the government. The police have every right to put a tracker on a car without a warrant.
    -Ryan Haines
    Period 2

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  67. Eby Lukose 3rd PeriodOctober 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

    I don't think that police officers should be able to put a GPS on a person's car without a warrant. It is private property, and they have no right to invade people's privacy like this. I understand that the people that they put the devices on are suspected of something illegal, but they are only suspected. There is no real evidence. I strongly disagree with Rivkin. who said "If you don't [build a fence, put the car in the garage or post a no-trespassing sign] you're not going to get the privacy." The car was still on your property. Whoever put the tracking device on it still entered your property. I thought that cops needed a warrant to enter a person's home or property. They should need a warrant.

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  68. Victoria Hackney
    2nd Period

    I both agree and disagree with this putting a GPS on someone’s car.
    I do not think that law enforcement officers should be able to a GPS on someone’s car without having a strong reason to back up needing to do so. You shouldn’t be able to put a GPS on someone’s car just because, but rather you need a very strong reason to place one on the car. In example: Drugs
    I agree that this was a situation where placing the GPS was helpful and wasn’t an invasion of privacy. To get this GPS on the suspect’s car, the law enforcers never had to break into something, and the GPS was just like having a private investigator following someone. The difference is that you only know the location of the car, you do not know what actually goes on while the suspect is there.

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  69. 5th period


    I think this not only a violation of someone's personal rights, but also a violation of a police officer's privileges. If it is illegal to search a person's property without a warrant, why would it be okay to search someone's driving patterns without a warrant? It does not matter if you are committing a crime, you still have rights as an American citizen. That's what makes American, as a country, free.

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  70. Tyler Powers 5th Period
    I have a problem with because if they do this without a warrant they are breaking a constitutional right. This Constitutional right is the 4 amendment to the Bill of Rights. So with this said even if you are committing crimes you need a warrant to track the location of the car.

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  71. Logan Gloster
    Period 4

    I think that this whole GPS case has reduced the trust of Americans to the U.S. government. If the officers had a warrant and then put the tracker on, then I would understand that and people would accept that it was necessary to stop the guy. The officers set a bad example because they show that anyone can track another person or property down and know where it will go. This makes people feel nervous about their property being modified in anyway while they are sleeping. So despite catching a criminal, the U.S. government has just lost the trust of many and will have to do something extraordinary to gain it back.

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  72. This is stupid it violates everyones privacy. When cops go to a house they have to get a warrant and this is the same thing. Even though the car wasn't in his garage it was still on his property so this is tresspassing. I do not think this should be allowed.

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  73. Gabriel Camera
    6th period
    I think that putting a GPS tracker on somebody's car should be ilegal. Because the owner of the car would probably like some privacy. But if you are a person with permission to do that, because you think that the owner of the car is a bad person and is doing ilegal things. Then, you should be able to do it. To see if you are right or wrong.

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  74. Sarah Raines
    4th period
    Based on this article I don’t think that it is okay for police to put a G.P.S. tracker on this man’s car without a warrant. Police need to have a warrant otherwise they might be able to do whatever they want. Even if the D.E.A. had a lead that he might be participating in illegal activity it was not right for them to trespass or touch his property (car) without granted permission. So I do believe the judge should have ruled it illegal for them to trespass and place a tracking device on his vehicle without his permission. I do also understand that asking the owner of the car permission to place a G.P.S. on his car would defeat the purpose. By requiring a warrant, it forces the police to have the situation looked at objectively to determine if the D.E.A. is over stepping their boundaries.

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  75. Jae Phan 4th Pd
    The government would not place a tracking device on a car for no reason. But what if the person they are tracking is a criminal or terrorist?Then the sacrifice of one's privacy is worth it because it keeps others safe. The government should give a tracking device an expiration time, it's not good to have a tracker on a car for five years when the person has done nothing wrong.

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  76. Nicolas Alba
    period2
    This article sounds very familiar to a telephone bugging issue. I believe our government has the right to interrogate suspicious people living among us. The issue is if these people are rightly prosecuted. Many people take both sides of the spectrum.The more paranoid side is that anybody can be and is a terrorist suspect, and is a threat to our national security; but vise versa on the other side where nobody is a threat until they do something. There are threats to the constitution on both ends. One a nation not keeping a promise to its citizens to keep them safe and another is the government falsely accusing somebody, both of these issues are big deals because our nation follows the guidelines set forth by our forefathers. It doesn’t matter what we think as long as we keep our nation safe.

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  77. Amita Batra
    3rd Period

    Personally, I believe that it is okay for police officers to place a tracking GPS on a suspect's car if they think that they are going to be able to stop a crime from occurring. Even though it invades personal privacy, it is an attempt to help make the city a better place. If a person commits a crime, they deserve to lose a right such as privacy. If the man had not been a suspect, then it would be an invasion of privacy.

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  78. Abels Koshy
    Period: 6
    I don't think that police officers should be able to put a GPS on a person's car. I believe that this activity is disagreeing with the people's right. People should have the right to know what is happening to their cars. Americans have the freedom to do what they want. The police should have evidence and a warrant to judge a person for their car and possesions.
    Abels Koshy
    Period:6

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  79. Ryan Rodriguez
    Period 6

    I think police officers should never be able to do that. Maybe it is okay with a warrant, but they didn't have one and that is illegal. If anybody should have went to jail, it should be them for not having a warrant to invade someone's privacy. I don't know why any police officer would even consider breaking the law.

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  80. Neethu George
    3rd period

    I don't think that police officers have the right to put a GPS in someone's car without a warrant. It's okay to put one if they have evidence that the suspect is guilty. But I also don't think that the police has the right to enter someone's property without a warrant.

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  81. Kaitlyn Trei
    Period 6

    In my opinion I don't think it was right for the law-enforcement to put a GPS of someones car without them knowing. I think that it is an invasion of privacy. Even though the man might of been growing marijuana in the area they still shouldn't put a tracking device on someones car. On the other hand since marijuana is illegal I guess that the law-enforcement should have the right to go an figure out if the guy is growing it.

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  82. I think to put a GPS tracking system on cars is okay. The reason it's okay is that if your car gets stolen the cops will be able to find it. The thing is the Court can't get to extreme by putting hidden cameras or even a GPS on your clothes. So I assume that having a GPS is a great thing we should do it right now.

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  83. Edward Richard
    4th period

    Personally, I don't care what the reason is for placing a GPS on a person's car. Thats violating personal space, gate or not. Nobody deserves to be tracked like a dog just because a cop thinks somebody is doing wrong. Thats not the way this country runs.

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  84. Gabriel Flores
    6th period

    To me I think putting a tracking device in someones car is a great idea. I mean the police already have hard as it is, and they at least deserve a break too. Not only does this make their job easier but it can save lives also.
    Although these are good things I dont like how they invade your privacy. I mean if you look suspicous it doesnt mean that your hiding something from the law. They might as well put a tracking device in every single car that is being made. I agree that this is a good idea but sometimes they can take it to far.

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  85. Prerna Kamnani
    4th Period

    I disagree with this article. I think that what the police did was a total invasion of privacy. It is completely unconstitutional because it goes against the fourth amendment. It is an innovative and productive way to catch criminals, but there should be a warrant required before placing the tracker on someone's property. Although they did catch the criminal, they did not do it in the right means of way. They should have first gotten a warrant. If all police were to do that, then they could be placing trackers on a person's property based on "hunch." I think the court will have to make some laws and decisions on how this process will take place.

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  86. 4th period
    Well at first when I was reading I was against the police, because police should always have a warrant when they're going to do anything at all to your property. But then when I read on, my opinion changed, because it's true they could have just followed him and recorded the same information, and police don't need a warrant to follow someone.

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  87. Saimol Edaparampil
    3rd period
    I don't agree with the officers putting a GPS device on someones car to track the movements of the vehicle without evidence of that person committing some illegal activity. If someone is committing some illegal activities, then the officers should first get a warrant from the judge to be able to put the tracking device on the vehicle. If not then they are violating your property. It can be dangerous too because any officer could track whoever they want to and that person can be stalked by the officer which can happen.

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  88. Tommy Settlemyre 3rd periodOctober 3, 2010 at 6:50 PM

    The fourth amendment of the US Constitution states that “no Warrants shall issue” unless they “particularly describ[e] the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized”. Since GPS tracking does not search or seize the necessity of a warrant to use this method is a constitutional gray area and therefore the decision of whether or not to require a warrant is up to the states. The problem with this logic is that it cannot apply to federal laws such as drug laws. The states cannot determine how a federal law is to be enforced. Therefore, Congress needs to address this issue and clarify which federal law enforcement methods require a warrant.

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  89. I have a major problem with this because it is breaks a constitutional right. This is breaks the 4th amendment in the Bill of Rights. This amendment states that without having a search warrant the government can not track you or search a citizen. With this said Americans lose what this country so great, freedom.
    Tyler Powers Fifth Period

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  90. Aileen Nguyen
    Period 3

    GPS devices in cars to track down crooks? That seems pretty legit. I do, though, think that attaching a GPS to any individual's car is a bit of an invasion of privacy. The article stated that the Drug Enforcement Administration SUSPECTED Pineda-Moreno of growing marijuana. Well, what if(and I'm just saying) he actually was not growing marijuana and was innocent? Tracking his every location would just be a complete invasion of his privacy, and the officers should have no right in doing so.

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  91. I believe that the police would have at least a search warrant but I don’t think they should be too overprotected about it. There should be like certain limit people should go thought.
    Steffie Philip
    Period-6th

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  92. 1. Joshua Conner- How'd you make your words bold?
    2. I think that putting a GSP in a persons car is wrong. It's invation of someones property. I think that they should find a different way to track people who grow marijuana.

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  93. It is completely and totally wrong that they put a tracking device on the car. There’s more than one way to find out a person is growing marijuana. You could get a search warrant or something like that. You don’t have to be sneaky and put a tracking device on someone’s car and that should be illegal since obviously it isn’t. Also I think that it’s an invasion of property to do that to someone. To tell the truth I don’t think that it’s such a big deal to where they had to take him to the Supreme Court.

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  94. Dawud Waddell
    2nd period
    It is completely and totally wrong that they put a tracking device on the car. There’s more than one way to find out a person is growing marijuana. You could get a search warrant or something like that. You don’t have to be sneaky and put a tracking device on someone’s car and that should be illegal since obviously it isn’t. Also I think that it’s an invasion of property to do that to someone. To tell the truth I don’t think that it’s such a big deal to where they had to take him to the Supreme Court.

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  95. Merin Mathew
    period 6

    In the beginning, I actually thought they had no right in putting a tracker on his car. But when I thought about it, he was illegally selling drugs.I think that it was alright for them to put a GPS tracker on his car, who was dealing marijuana. It really didn't matter that he wanted privacy, it was illegal. If they didn't put a GPS tracker on his car, he would be selling marijuana to other people and risking other people's life. The police wouldn't have had evidence to arrest him.

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  96. The cops are just doing their jobs by investigating, it's not like the person should have anything to hide, unless he is guilty. I do agree though that it goes a little too far when they enter your property and place the tracker on your car. I personally would give a thumbs up to this idea.
    Joe James
    6th Period

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  97. Anastasia Konik PERIOD 5October 3, 2010 at 8:00 PM

    I personally agree with the majority of my classmates when I say that this is completely illogical! First, this is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Second, everyone shouldn't have to worry that they don't have privacy. Clearly, HIS car was on HIS property and the government had absolutely NO right to put a tracking device or any device for that matter onto his car. That is trespassing, and illegal. Though what he did was illegal and horrible in the first place, you must have a warrant. You may not just go for it because you suspect something. End of story.

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  98. Nick Brouwer (period 2)October 3, 2010 at 8:03 PM

    The officer who did this should at least get suspended. That is illegal, since they didn't have a court order. It's disappointing that a police officer, someone trusted to keep a community safe, could be practically stalking an innocent person.

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  99. Kyne Onyenze
    3rd Period

    According to the Bill of Rights I believe one of the amendments was that police couldn't search your car or house without a warrant. Well in this article this pretty much says the exact opposite of that amendment. If they put a tracking chip in your car that just the same thing as raiding your house. They know your every move and where you going to and where you’ve been already. I don’t think this is a good idea. But then again since the guy was selling drugs I guess it was alright. Even though two wrongs don’t make a right I still think it was wrong.

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  100. Grace Bonojo
    4th period


    I understand that what he was doing was wrong, but for officers of the law to do something like that doesn't make them better. What they did was an invasion of privacy which is something we as U.S. citizens are entitled to. I believe that Pineda-Moreno should take his case to the Supreme Court because if the state can get away with this then can get away with just about anything.

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  101. Grace Bonojo
    4th period


    I understand that what he was doing was wrong, but for officers of the law to do something like that doesn't make them better. What they did was an invasion of privacy which is something we as U.S. citizens are entitled to. I believe that Pineda-Moreno should take his case to the Supreme Court because if the state can get away with this then can get away with just about anything.

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  102. Period 6

    People should not be putting trackers in your car. Okay it helped them catch one illegal crime, but seriously if you think about everything illegal that happens in the country, quite frankly I think we might need some of these illegal crimes. On the other hand, in the future if they do put GPS trackers in cars it could be helpful. If a car breaks down in the middle of the road they can locate you and help you.

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  103. Emily Panozzo

    4th Period



    There is no problem with this form of investigation. This car tracking method is no different from anything else that the police, FBI, etc. do today. If one is suspected to have something in their house that they shouldn't, these enforcers bust into the house and no one objects in court. The same should go for tracking devices. It isn't invading a personal space if it is for legal reasons. He did the wrong thing and he got caught. It shouldn't matter how they caught him. Yes, some of you have brought up that they should have a warrant but personally, I don't think it matters. Being an official itself is having a warrant. Investigators can do whatever they want as long as they are getting the job done. If it ever got to the point where the trackers were put on random vehicles, then it is an invasion, but the guy was growing marijuana. Accusing the authorities for the wrong doing makes it seem that you too have something to hide. Just let them do their own thing so the society we live in can continue to be safe.

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